Comments on: The Glass Ceiling: To Be or Not to Be http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/2008/05/the-glass-ceiling-to-be-or-not-to-be/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:46:45 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Wise Women Coffee Chat » A Note from VP of Told What To Do and Not Ask Questions http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/2008/05/the-glass-ceiling-to-be-or-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Wise Women Coffee Chat » A Note from VP of Told What To Do and Not Ask Questions Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:42:00 +0000 http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/?p=198#comment-111 [...] it’s nice to report, ladies, that Lori has successfully broken through the glass ceiling in her household. Her Vice Presidential staff clearly knows their place and is highly supportive of [...] [...] it’s nice to report, ladies, that Lori has successfully broken through the glass ceiling in her household. Her Vice Presidential staff clearly knows their place and is highly supportive of [...]

]]> By: Elaine http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/2008/05/the-glass-ceiling-to-be-or-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-61 Elaine Sat, 31 May 2008 12:31:48 +0000 http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/?p=198#comment-61 Check out this Speed Bump cartoon. Every time a male politician announces he's leaving office to spend more time with his family, I KNOW this is what he really wants to say. http://www.creators.com/comics/speed-bump/19866.html Check out this Speed Bump cartoon. Every time a male politician announces he’s leaving office to spend more time with his family, I KNOW this is what he really wants to say.

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]]> By: manager mom http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/2008/05/the-glass-ceiling-to-be-or-not-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-58 manager mom Fri, 30 May 2008 10:57:43 +0000 http://wisewomencoffeechat.com/?p=198#comment-58 I remember the Brenda Barnes stuff... and like you, I was surprised (and annoyed) at the kind of criticism leveled at her for making the choice that she did. And I think that in her case, it truly was driven by family, not a euphemism for "getting fired" as the "taking time off to spend with family" is used sometimes. But I think women have a long way to go, unfortunately. I'm not necessarily a Hillary Clinton fan personally, but when you read or hear the types of criticism that people dish out for her vs. Obama or McCain or a male politician, it's clear that a large chunk of the rest of the country would prefer to keep us pregnant and/or in the kitchen. If they ever tasted my cooking they'd know how wrong they are on the second wish. But, my point, if I ever had one, is that women shouldn't be penalized for making choices, but we are. And we are penalized more permanently and more harshly than is "fair" from pay and advancement standards. I remember the Brenda Barnes stuff… and like you, I was surprised (and annoyed) at the kind of criticism leveled at her for making the choice that she did. And I think that in her case, it truly was driven by family, not a euphemism for “getting fired” as the “taking time off to spend with family” is used sometimes.

But I think women have a long way to go, unfortunately. I’m not necessarily a Hillary Clinton fan personally, but when you read or hear the types of criticism that people dish out for her vs. Obama or McCain or a male politician, it’s clear that a large chunk of the rest of the country would prefer to keep us pregnant and/or in the kitchen.

If they ever tasted my cooking they’d know how wrong they are on the second wish.

But, my point, if I ever had one, is that women shouldn’t be penalized for making choices, but we are. And we are penalized more permanently and more harshly than is “fair” from pay and advancement standards.

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